The Obama Vital Record simulation

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Why are you overlooking the fact that IF Ann Dunham had a passport in 1961 and IF she had done something so ridiculously foolish as to travel halfway around the world to have her first child without her husband, on her return trip she would have flown from London to New York and would be listed among NY immigration records, NOT Hawaii’s? [records are missing only for Hawaii international arrivals]

Ann Dunham Obama received her first passport in 1965 after she married Lolo Soetoro, in anticipation of her traveling to Indonesia. This is clearly seen in all her passport records. There is also the fact that there are witnesses that remember seeing Ann Obama in Kapi’olani Hospital, one of them is the mother of Stig Waidelich, who was born a day or two after Barack Obama and she clearly remembers a black baby in the nursery and realized it had to have been Obama. She also mentioned seeing his parents together, an unusual sight in 1961.

There is nothing that indicates that President Obama was born outside the U.S., only the delusions in the minds of birthers.  ~~~
A. Nash replies:
~There are a few major holes in your assumptions, and they are all explained by the Vancouver Scenario which I wrote a while back. (found at obama–nation. com

It goes like this: Ann D. was living back in her old stomping grounds where she felt at home, Seattle, Washington, during her third trimester. She couldn’t find any adoptive parents in the state so she arranged with the Family Services of Greater Vancouver to try to find adoptive parents in Canada.  [from their website:  Our services range from prevention to intervention. We provide: abuse prevention & trauma treatment; addictions treatment; adoption services; community education & development; counselling; employee assistance; employment services; immigrant services; intensive family & parenting services; support for youth with special needs; victim support; and youth services for homeless youth and youth living in at-risk situations.

83 years after we started out, our 525 staff, together with 295 volunteers and 38 students, continue to provide crucial social services in over 30 languages at 20 locations throughout the lower mainland (Vancouver, Richmond, Burnaby, New Westminster, and Surrey), and other areas of the province. Last year, our annual agency revenue was $22,276,296.]

Striking out there also after traveling to Vancouver and giving birth there, she flew to Hawaii three days later, checked her baby into the hospital, and attempted to register his birth the next day with the Dept. of Health.  She didn’t need a passport for travel between U.S. and Canada at that time but INS cards were required to be filled out regardless.
The affidavit she filled-out for the DoH was insufficient for issuing a Hawaiian birth certificate since she provided no evidence of having lived in Hawaii for a year, nor sworn statements from any witnesses.

Thus, Obama has no birth certificate from either Canada or any U.S. State.  He only form of ID all of his life has been his Indonesian passport.  That was why he had to “request” a birth certificate from Hawaii in 2008 since he never had one, and never will.  That’s why his “request” produced two counterfeits.

How did that come about?  Axelrod: Hey Barry, we need to scan your birth certificate and show the public that you were born in Hawaii.

Barry:   uhhhhh, that might be a problem since I don’t have one.  And brace yourself; I never have had one.  So if we’re going to release a scan of one, we first have to make one.

Axelrod: No problem, the useful idiots in the Hawaiian DoH would be willing to provide us with whatever materials we need.  We’ll just have to release it surreptitiously so that it isn’t traced back to anyone in particular.

Obama’s Real Birth Date & Real Father

Don Wilkie, on  October 30, 2012 posted a column titled: “Just When Was Obama Born?” in which he stated: “It is beyond any reasonable doubt that Neil Abercrombie, Governor of Hawaii, and Ann Dunham’s girlfriends, Susan Blake and Maxine Box, have been telling falsehoods about the President’s origins.  It is also beyond any reasonable doubt that there are people within the Obama camp who have managed their fabrications.  It now appears that Mary Toutonghi, (Ann Dunham’s sometime babysitter in Seattle), was also ‘managed.’
Mary and her husband were the managers of the Villa Ria apartments located in the Capitol Hill section of Seattle.  The apartments were carved out of a large old house.  We now know that Ann and baby moved into Mary’s apartment house in late August or early September 1961.  This is confirmed by David Maraniss as well as by Marc Leavipp in the registrar’s office of the University of Washington.  Ann is also listed in the 1961-1962 Seattle Polk Directory at the Capitol Hill address.
In late 2008, it was revealed that Ann had enrolled in classes at the University of Washington for the fall quarter of 1961.  It is clear that the Obama camp was caught off-guard by this revelation.”

http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/10/just_when_was_obama_born.html

The premise of his column is the speculation that Obama may have been the son of someone other than Obama Sr. and been born 7 months earlier than late August or early Sept., that being in January-February instead of August.  But if F.M. Davis was the father that would not have been likely.  About the earliest that he might have impregnated Ann was the night of July 4th 1960 since the family probably only arrived in Hawaii in mid-June at the earliest.  That would result in birth in early April ‘61, making Obama only 5 months old in Sept, not seven months as he speculates.
What needs to be born in mind is the fact that the State Dept. officers who dealt with the Obama Sr. case noted that the couple was considering adoption of their yet unborn baby by means of the Salvation Army.  That course of action would have two possible means, -pregnancy and birth in Hawaii, or pregnancy and birth in Seattle (or birth in Vancouver B.C.)
Ann’s parents would be scandalized by their 17 year old daughter’s pregnancy outside of marriage, and worse, (socially-speaking) with a Negro man’s child.  They probably would have wanted to hide her pregnancy from their circle of social acquaintances.  She could have remained indoors at home for months on end after dropping out of college, or she could have moved back to her home territory in Seattle, staying with some close, sympathetic family friends up until the last several weeks.  Then she could have moved into a Salvation Army home for unwed pregnant girls.  If that home was unable to find an adoptive family for her child, she may have transferred to a Vancouver branch as a Hail Mary attempt at finding an adoptive couple there in Canada.  Either way, after delivery, it would have been time to leave that home after a few more weeks of recovery and adjustment and it would have been then that she moved into the group apartment.

Taking that move and timing as an established fact, we can deduce a few things from it.  First, that she probably wasn’t doing any flying at eight-months pregnant.  So if she remained at home in Hawaii up until then, then she would have given birth in Hawaii and not have flown to Seattle.  That raises the question of when  she arrived in Seattle.  That brings one back to the issue of adoption, and whether or not there was any couple in Hawaii that was willing  to adopt a mixed-race baby and whether or not any adoption agency knew of such a willing couple.   If none was known, -and Ann’s parents had preferred that their pregnant daughter was out of public view, then they could have funded her moving back to Seattle around the time her pregnancy began to show.  If she was impregnated by Obama Sr. on the night of Halloween, during some loose boozy party, then she would have been three months pregnant in early February -the same time when records of her whereabouts end.
At that time, or a few months later, she could have moved to Seattle, and given birth (after nine full months of pregnancy) on August 4th.
If Frank Marshall Davis shot the risque and nude photos of Ann during the summer of 1960, and, (as described in his autobiographical novel) had sex with her, then by late October, she would have been interested in re-experiencing that gigantic, liberating rebellion against all that was considered “decent” and “acceptable”, (forbidden pleasure being the most intensely experienced), and a new and exotic, foreign, younger partner would have filled the bill.
With all inhibitions having already been shed with Davis, it would not have required a preliminary courtship to surrender to seduction and enjoy a forbidden one-night stand.
With there being no record of any marriage between Jr.’s parents, nor of any relationship between them, it is conceivable that Ann’s parents eventually concocted a scheme of obtaining an official divorce because that would be evidence that he was not born as a bastard, -outside of wedlock, because who gets a divorce unless they were married? (-everyone would reason)  Who?  Someone who wants to avoid that social stigma as well as secure parental custody rights that might free her from needing his permission for leaving the country or allowing adoption by a new Indonesian step-father.
If Ann’s parents faced knowing that their grandchild could not be legitimized via marriage to an unwilling father, then they might have considered that he could be retro-actively legitimized via a divorce (for which no proof of marriage is even needed) from a claimed marriage that took place before the birth.  An uncontested divorce would be easy and affordable.
There is some serious significance to the fact that she didn’t just name Obama Sr. as the father, but that she gave her son his name.   If he had been fathered by another man, if would not have occurred  to a new mother to name her child after someone who had no connection to his birth.
But if Obama Sr. was in fact the father, then naming her son after him would have been the first possibility that would have occurred to her.  Of course that would carry the eventual complication that he would be ineligible to be the President.
She could have labeled the father as “unknown” but would not have felt any reason to lie.  She was being honest and truthful in her statement of official record, unlike her son who is being just the opposite, and for darn good reason, whatever it is. If Frank Marshall Davis were the real father, and he, she, and her parents wanted to keep that fact secret because he was a friend and a fellow socialist and publisher of a communist periodical (as well as being black) and also could have been under possible criminal charges since Ann was only 17 when she became pregnant (although the age of consent could be as low as 14 years old) then she didn’t have to name him as the father, nor name her son after someone with whom she had no intimate connection.  The likelihood is that she had been intimate with both of them, just not concurrently. That would have made it quite clear who the father was and who it wasn’t.  By Ockum’s Razor one would conclude that she choose to name her son after his father, -a chip off the old block.  Being a free and adventurous independent spirit, and a broadly-minded thinker, she probably would have gotten a kick out of giving her child such an exotic, unconventional, non-American name.  And so she named him Bair ak Obama, (accent on the first syllable) -just like his father, producing the nickname of Barry.
But Barry, like his fake name (Ba Rock!) is also a fake President, having been fathered by one who made him exotic, half-foreign, international, demographically unique, appealing to uniters, to globalists, and international-socialism embracers, but who also made him constitutionally ineligible to the office of President because he was consequently not born (as required) as a 100% natural born American citizen.

by A.R. Nash  Nov.  2012  obama–nation.com

The Vancouver Birth Scenario

revised: August 2012

Barack Obama has a birth record that he is unwilling to let anyone see except his lawyer, which gives the impression that there is something to hide.  The only thing conceivable is his place of birth.  Yet his mother was only 18 years old and unlikely to have had a passport, nor the desire or finances to be globe trotting.  So how could she not give birth in Hawaii?  There is only one likely possibility.
There is testimony from Barbara Nelson who had a conversation with her friend’s father in a Hawaiian dinner club, a Dr. West, who remarked that “Stanley had a baby”. Her name was most remarkable; -the same name as her father, to whom she wrote about the coincidence.  The words “had a baby” might have been “has a baby” or “had a baby” -as in -sometime recently but without any reference to where or when.  (A nearly half-century old memory is very unreliable when it comes to the details of words spoken and she has proven to be an unreliable witness by altering her story, having first put forth the impression that Dr. West delivered the baby, which had to be dropped when the long-form birth certificate image was posted online showing a Dr. Sinclair being the named physician-obstetrician.  Worse yet for her credibility is the fact that she was one of Barack’s adoring high school teachers, having written prosaically about him, -almost like a fictional character.
There is no other testimony regarding Obama’s birth.  That is the mysteriously limited record & testimony on behalf of the one who became the President of the United States.  Even the women who gave birth in the hospital listed as Obama Jr.’s birth location never saw him or his mother during that first week of August in 1961.  No one has yet claimed to have even seen Ann Dunham pregnant, much less attended her delivery.

So mother and baby Obama were presumably in Hawaii sometime shortly after his birth, so how could she also be out of Hawaii to deliver him outside the United States?
There is only one possibility.  It’s this.
Ann had moved four times before reaching her teens, so she had no long term roots. But she developed some after the family moved to the Seattle area where she spent all of her formative teen years, until the family moved again, to Hawaii, after her High School graduation.
She was uprooted once more from her familiar surroundings & friends and moved to where she had neither. She enrolled in college in Honolulu and attended for the fall/winter semester where she met fellow student, Barack (pronounced Bair´ ack) Obama from Kenya.
Then, during the fall of 1961 she became pregnant.  In 1961, before civil rights, before women’s liberation, before political correctness, before African-American penetration of American main-stream culture, before mixed-race couples, for a young white woman just a half-year out of High School to become pregnant outside of marriage would have been a very frowned on thing, especially if she was only 17 at the time.  Hence a marriage was arranged within a few months of knowing that she was pregnant.  At least that’s the assumption.
But even marriage would not have smoothed-over the cultural shock of having one’s minor white daughter pregnant with a black man’s child, especially if he was old enough to be her father, and was a major American communist figure who wrote and published a communist publication.  The Dunham’s friend, Frank Marshall Davis, an African-American communist from Chicago, was close to their daughter Ann, and even got her to pose nude for his photography avocation (selling the photos to a men’s magazine).  It’s logical to assume that a lively young women who was willing to go that far would have also been willing to go a little farther, and lose her unwanted virginity to him.
Assuming she did, then she would likely have shed her inhibitions about sex and could have easily gotten involved with another radical, -one Barack Obama, -a fellow student and a most exotic one at that, being from East Africa.
If so, and if both encounters were within a close time frame, then she might not have been certain which one had impregnated her.
If the older and possibly wiser Davis had deflowered her with forethought, having the smarts to have and use a condom to avoid impregnating a 17 year old white girl, then Obama would have to have been the father.
Ann’s pregnancy in 1961 would have presented a huge problem for her reputation, as well as the social image of her parents.  At the point of her pregnancy showing, it seems that her life then followed the pattern of nearly all of the young women in America in the same situation; -they vanished from the radar.
She dropped out of college in February, 1961 and no record of her whereabouts has been found until she appeared in Seattle in the latter half of August of ‘61 following the birth of her child.
What’s remarkable and unexplainable is the total absence of what one would expect to exist if the fairy tale told in “Dreams From My Father” were actually true.  She lived with Obama Sr. & son as a family for two years as claimed?
Ok, then where are the photos of that early family life?  But before those photos, where are the courtship period photos?  The wedding photos?  The honeymoon photos?  The love letters between bride and groom?  The marriage record?  The recollections of witnesses?  None exist, just as none would exist if there was no romance, no courtship, no shotgun wedding, no honeymoon, no life together.  All that exists is lots of unanswered questions.  If ever there was a man whose life should be an open book to the American people, it’s someone born to an alien father, and mentored by a card-carrying communist party member.
She never lived with the man she named as father of her child. He lived in an apartment near his college campus. His friends have no memory of a girlfriend.  A union in a vacuum, an invisible relationship, a forbidden mysteriously hidden tryst.  Fact? -or fiction?
The subject of adoption would naturally have come up.  It might have been raised by Ann herself since she was a young and adventurous, free-thinking-&-acting person.  It could be assumed that she had plans and desires for her future, and being a prisoner to the chores of motherhood at such a young age was not likely to have been viewed favorably.
With her own serious reservations, and the resistance of her parents to having and keeping any child at that point, much less a black child, it would be almost inevitable in 1961 to want to seriously consider adoption as the best solution. [INS records confirm they were considering adoption]
The Dunhams lived out the remainder of their years in Hawaii, with no more moves to other cities and states, and it’s reasonable to assume that in 1961 that was what they saw for themselves going forward.  With Hawaii as their permanent home, and a pregnant daughter without a man in her life, adoption was the only option.
But there would have been two problems with an adoption in Hawaii.  First is that there may have been no couple willing to adopt a mixed-race baby, and second is that if there were, they would have to live the rest of their lives with the possibility of encountering the adopted child that they would have wanted to be out-of-sight, -out-of-mind.  A mainland adoption would have been preferable, and possibly the only chance of finding a willing couple.
So they might have agreed to pay for their daughter’s home-sickness assuaging return to Seattle if she agreed to put the baby up for adoption while there.  She would have turned to the Salvation Army or some other organization handling adoptions.  Having told them the truth about the race of the father, no adoptive parents came forward.
She may have been disappointed that there were no takers.  That would have turned her attention to the closest big city as an alternative, and that city was Vancouver, Canada.  She may have learned that there was one or more significant benefits to giving birth there, (such as free medical care) and possibly was able to arrange a quick adoption in Canada.
But the adoption, for whatever reason, didn’t happen. Maybe, after holding and nursing the baby, maternal instincts were awakened and she couldn’t let him go.
She may have delivered her child on August 1, flew directly to Hawaii on August 3rd or 4th, and then registered  him with the Dept. of Health on August 5th by filling out an affidavit and signing it, -claiming that he was born at home.

Sheriff Joe Arpaio’s investigation found that the records in the government archive for persons on international flights into Hawaii during the first week of August 1961 are missing from the end of the reel of microfilm that once contained them.  Those are the only records known to be inexplicably missing.

Her appearance in Hawaii with the baby that she was expected to be rid of would not have been greeted with acceptance.  Instead, it might have been met with fear and serious reservations.  Such a reaction would have motivated her parents to fund her return to Seattle and the shouldering of the living expenses of going to school there where she felt more at home among her own friends and familiar surroundings, and could attend college with (or associate with) one or more of them.

The Obama-supporters will ask what proof there is that this scenario is true.  But asking that question brings into focus their failure to recognize that the same question can be asked in regard to proving that it isn’t true.  There is in fact no proof that it isn’t true, and that is what makes it a possibly accurate description of what actually happened.  The bigger question is: “Why should such uncertainly exist when it comes to the most powerful position in the world?”
But in the end, it doesn’t matter where Obama was born, what matters is to whom he was born.  A natural American is not one born in America but is one born to Americans and only Americans.
But if he was born in Vancouver, he would not have even been a U.S. citizen at all because his mother was too young to convey her citizenship to him.  And that is what he is hiding from the American people, because if they knew it, then even in their misguided understanding of presidential eligibility, they would be aware that a foreigner can’t be President.

a.r. nash  http://obama–nation.com

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